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Sci-Fi Movie Podcast - Prometheus

Sci-Fi Movie Podcast – Prometheus

This week on The Sci-Fi Movie Podcast, Rem, Ian and Jonathan dig deeper into “Prometheus” from 2012 and directed by .

The Positive
There was much buzz and anticipation with Prometheus, Fans of the Alien series were looking for more backstory and answers about one of the most terrifying and beloved Sci-Fi monsters of all time. This movie presented great visual effects, a few interesting questions and a tiny bit more information about the possible origin of the Alien.

 

 

 

The Negative
It would take pages to detail the problems with Prometheus, suffice to say all the money, special effects and talent thrown at this movie still can’t resurrect a fundamentally flawed and incoherent script.

The Verdict
The more you’re a fan of the Alien series, the more you’re likely to be disappointed with Prometheus.  It’s a film that’s technically solid, but it’s hard to feel for the characters and what they’re trying to achieve.

 

Listener Feedback

Mr. Blahg 
I will concede that it has a few problems, and I believe some of that had to do with editing (specifically towards the end), but overall I loved this film. I think people came into this expecting either Alien or Aliens and/or wanted very specific answers that it didn’t give… I personally enjoyed the questions it raised and am happy to try and piece together my own thoughts on the meaning and connection to the previous films (and I do think I have a particular bead on how it all connects, but that would take some time to unpack… and it may be too far out in left field). I’m looking forward to the sequel.

Audrey Srod
I had no expectations, I really did not want to see it but went with someone who did. I also did not know the alien connection until the very end. It had been years since I had seen Alien and did not recognize the ship. All in all I liked it, even though this movie answers no damn questions but raises a ton of them. You have to suspend your disbelief for a lot of aspects. I laugh at how Charlize could not run right or left.

Janalee Curtis
As a person who hasn’t seen the Alien movies (as I am a huge wimp) I REALLY enjoyed Prometheus.

Sayeed Rahman
I’m just glad there’s gonna be another movie.

Kira Tchka
I love this movie.

Josh Adams
I absolutely love this movie, even as I recognize its flaws. My expectations were met, and the whole premise delightfully aligned with my 20 year old theory for where the aliens came from. I think that people that are hard on this kind of WANT to be hard on it, and use the other failures of the franchise as easy bait for their opinions. Suffice to say, Prometheus isn’t a great film, but it’s one I certainly love.

David Zapanta
Prometheus is the prequel that dare not speak its name. This movie could have just as easily been titled When Smart People Do Stupid Things. The existence of this prequel is baffling to me. That Ridley Scott would return to the Alien universe in this fashion is even more baffling. Michael Fassbender’s David was the best thing in this whole fiasco, and Charlize Theron was compelling enough with what little she had to work with. Same goes for Idris Elba. Went into this with low expectations that were completely dashed to bits. To me, there are only two films in this franchise: Alien, and Aliens. Sorry for the rant, but Prometheus seriously chaps my hide. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, though…!

Steve Ferguson
You know, I enjoyed this movie when I first saw it, due in no small part to the atmosphere and Michael Fassbender’s portrayal of David. But every time I think back to it, I can’t help but think of it’s tremendous flaws, most of which are centered around the script. Way too much effort was made to shoehorn in an Alien connection but without any logic. I put a lot of the blame on the shoulders of Damon Lindelof, who churned out a script that makes little sense, is full of questionable plot elements, and is focused on being unpredictable. You may know him as being a writer for Lost.

Jason Cabassi
I expected not to like this movie, but then I went ahead and liked it anyway, quite a lot. Lindelof ended up changing a lot more than the ending, I think. He read the script and didn’t like that it was mostly just a prequel to the Alien films, and thought it should stand on its own. (Quoting Lindeloff )”If the ending to [Prometheus] is just going to be the room that John Hurt walks into that’s full of [alien] eggs [in Alien], there’s nothing interesting in that, because we know where it’s going to end. Good stories, you don’t know where they’re going to end. A true prequel should essentially precede the events of the original film, but be about something entirely different, feature different characters, have an entirely different theme, although it takes place in that same world.”

Nick Jensen
I like this movie. It’s not great, because it does have flaws, but I think that people judge it a bit too harshly. I think that Scott/the writers had a movie in mind that had nothing to do with the Alien franchise; but were persuaded or decided to start trying to tie the Alien universe into the movie. That’s where most of the criticism comes from, that it’s not ‘Aliens’ enough; but if you watch the movie without the idea that it’s going to be just like the original Alien movies and that it’s going to be a different view into that universe it’s more enjoyable. It did have some story problems but the unanswered questions left by the movie aren’t an issue for me; watch Alien again and tell me you know everything about where the xenomorphs come from. We now know they were a product of the Engineers, and hopefully they are explored more in future movies. So not essential sci-fi, but still enjoyable; especially if you don’t need every detail about the space jockey or xenomorphs origins spelled out, it’s still a good look into that universe.

Corey Blanton
Prometheus gets a lot of hate. I love Prometheus. It was one of those movies I HAD to watch multiple times because there is so many layers to uncover, so many themes, so much more than just some “scientists” making very unscientific mistakes (i.e. petting space cobras, taking off helmets on unknown planets, running straight forward instead of left or right when a big wheel-like ship is rolling at you.) One thing I think a lot of people overlook is a reflection on human nature; each character has something that they seek and are destroyed by the thing they seek. Shaw desperately wants to have a child, she gives birth in the worst possible way (to an alien thingy in a surgery/abortion machine). Holloway desperately is seeking the answer to existence, he is destroyed in learning that answer is not as grand as he had hoped. Weyland wants to live forever, and when he confronts the one thing he thinks can give that to him, it literally kills him. The things we seek so desperately, ultimately bring us to our end.

There are so many other themes and meaning you can find in this movie. And on a non-serious note about the movie, the geologist was so hilariously awful in this, I admit it. “I’m a geologist. I love rocks!” and sparking space joints. Some stuff was cliche and bad, but it shouldn’t take that much away from an otherwise very deep movie with tons of hidden themes and meaning. Take from it what you will, I guess, but for me… Awesome movie!

Jennifer Robertson
I went into the theater stoked for this film, and at about 35 mins had an unquestionable look of WTF on my face. Elements were good, but on a whole there was something missing. Things did not tie together naturally at all. The biggest piece of the puzzle missing for me was the philosophy of the engineers. Intelligent, impressive beings that stirred my curiosity and Noomi Rapace’s sketchy dialogue didn’t give them enough substance for me. I didn’t hate the film, and I have rewatched it from time to time, but it did disappoint. It was a bit of a hot mess.

Doug Ferguson
Prometheus is the kind of movie that highlights the importance of the screenplay. This film had a legendary director attached and he directed the hell out of this movie. Visually stunning. A great group of talented actors, like Michael Fassbender who hits his role out of the park.
But at the end of the film, you just get a frustrating glimpse of a better movie that could have been because the screenplay was a mess. And I can’t believe that both Ridley Scott and the studio felt that this script was ready. It has so many leaps in logic and unanswered questions that it feels more like a second draft than a shooting script.
What a wasted opportunity to explore the origin of man and the chaos of the universe.
Here’s to hoping that The Martian is better!

Ton de Witte
I went in not knowing what to expect and I liked the movie. The beginning seems to be a religious act of sacrifice, we can only assume that that particular piece of the space jockey religion has changed or was abandoned and that the space jockeys became xenophobic. Or a new religion arose that wanted to wipe out all inferior species so they developed a bio weapon which went out of control.

If you look at the alien species they are a bit too perfect no flaws at all, then space jockeys realised that and fled the laboratory so to speak before they could deploy the weapon. Ok some things in this movie are cliché but I enjoy it. Shaw’s operation was interesting to say the least she must be the only one infected with an alien to walk away alive, Ripley doesn’t count she was cloned. Essential viewing no, but as there is a sequel coming to this prequel this story hasn’t ended, so perhaps the common opinion about this movie will mutate from the face hugger people seem to think it is into an alien.

Anthony Farnsworth
A common trend here that i’ll be following, i love this movie but i also recognize its flaws. Ridley Scott really knows how to capture the eerie atmosphere and make everything aesthetically pleasing. The visuals are fantastic right out the gate with the first shots of the movie scoping over the Isle of Man and seeing the engineer performing this bizarre ritual which disintegrates him causing the creation of mankind (at least i think that’s what happened). And that’s just it, nothing is too clear about this movie, a lot of confusion, some of the confusion i like because blatant exposition would just dumb the movie down and like to speculate as to what’s really going on… but then again there are other confusing aspects of the movie that bring it down for me. For example not only could i care less about the geologist and biologist being lost and scared in the alien ruins but why the heck did they all of a sudden get curious about the snake alien when literally just moments ago they ditched the group because they found a dead alien corpse? And why did the the geologist turn into mutated zombie alien on steroids? Or why didn’t charlize theron just simply run left or right out of the giant alien space craft? Questions that most likely won’t ever be answered and i don’t care for them to be answered other than putting it on really bad story telling and lazy script writing. I’m almost positive i heard something about the writer being renown for mucking movies up, why he was allowed to write this? The world may never know. Regardless, i enjoyed the movie as another addition in the alien universe, but most definitely not required sci-fi viewing.

Dusty Tweedhope
Had to really remind myself that it was NOT part of the alien franchise. Related to, but not part of. I loved this film. Very good variety of characters, incredible scenery, mesmerizing effects, and interesting plot. I look forward to the sequel immensely.

Brian Campbell
What do you do when a space cobra rears itself up in front of you? Why you stare in bemused wonderment, of course! Loved the special effects and the story started out with some great ambition. However, the plot collapses upon itself as the characters become LOST in a Damonic way. (See what I did there?)
Erik Feten
I actually love that none of the ships or the events in Prometheus are directly connected to Alien. The theory I’ve heard that is my favorite is that the derelict ship we see in Alien is one that left for Earth 2000 years ago and has been sitting there the whole time in waiting… that it was a ship meant to eradicate the human population for killing off an Engineer sent to educate our species (insert religious overtones for who was killed 2000 years ago). Pure speculation, but I happen to dig that one.

Michael Simshauser
I’ll get this out of the road first, I enjoyed Prometheus, even with Damon Lindelof’s hack job on it. Dan O’Bannon he is not. The layers within the script I attribute to Jon Spaits original script. But unfortunately the layers and the great visuals by Sir Ridley Scott cannot stop the frustration I felt stupid people from doing stupid things in this movie. Like getting lost in a place that they just mapped, touching an unidentified possibly dangerous life form and running away from a threat in a straight line. I am looking forward to seeing where the sequel goes from here.

 

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Sci Fi Movie Podcast The Avengers Age Of Ultron

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Sci- Fi Movie Podcast - Avengers Age Of UltronThis week on The Sci-Fi Movie Podcast, Rem, Ian, Jonathan dig deeper into “The Avengers: Age Of Ultron” from 2015 and directed by Joss Whedon.

The Positive
Rem considers this to be worthy successor to the first Avengers movie and the culmination of a multi-movie story arc in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  Ian loved how ‘Ultron’ hit the ground running and keep the action and pace throughout the entire movie. Jonathan loves the dialogue written by Joss Whedon and enjoyed the tie in with Marvels Agents of Shield.  We particularly enjoyed the voice and character of James Spader as Ultron.

 

The Negative
Jonathan found the plot a bit simplistic and didn’t have a whole lot of depth. It was a bit difficult to really grasp the intentions of Ultron and his ultimate plan.  Really, there didn’t seem to be one.

The Verdict
Avengers: Age Of Ultron is a great movie and we suggest you go see it, and the sooner, the better.  It’s a fun action movie with heart and well developed characters.  It’s certainly best if you’ve watched the previous movies, but you could still go in cold with no knowledge and still enjoy it.

Director: Joss Whedon

Writers: Joss Whedon

Cast
Robert Downey Jr. – Tony Stark / Iron Man
Chris Hemsworth – Thor
Mark Ruffalo – Bruce Banner / Hulk
Chris Evans – Steve Rogers / Captain America
Scarlett Johannson – Natasha Romanoff / Black Widow
Jeremy Renner – Clint Barton / Hawkeye
James Spader – Ultron
Samuel L. Jackson – Nick Fury
Don Cheadle – James Rhodes / War Machine
Elizabeth Olsen – Wanda Maximoff / Scarlet Witch
Aaron Taylor-Johnson – Pietro Maximoff / Quicksilver
Paul Bettany – Jarvis / The Vision
Cobie Smulders – Maria Hill

Rem was a guest on a recent episode of the Podcasters Group Therapy Podcast-
http://podcastersgrouptherapy.com/audio-quality-11

Listener Comments
Liz Irwin
Oh man!! I wish I could go out and see this (and Ex-Machina) and give my input before the recording! I’m suffering from some demon cold/flu and don’t want to subject my fellow moviegoers to coughs, sneezes and sniffling. *sigh* Next time…

Update…
Liz Irwin I felt well enough to se ex-machina and Avengers tomorrow. So excited. Can’t wait for you guys to review ex-machina!!!

Seth Heasley
That opening scene was way too CG heavy, and way too obviously CG-heavy. To future Marvel movie people: You don’t have to go bigger. Just go better.

Anthony Farnsworth
I loved this movie, great time, definitely have to see it twice. With that being said, I have to see it twice because there was sooo much going on, there was very little time to breathe. an example of this is the scene that got us all hyped to see the the movie, the hulk-buster vs hulk, it was a great scene but it was at the tail end of another crazy action scene, just very overwhelming, not saying there was too much action but it could have been spaced apart a bit more. Im glad we got interactions between all the characters here, but because of this I felt the movie could have been longer honestly, because they tried to pack in so much in 2 1/2hrs that some aspects of the film fell short. One of these being Ultron, in the trailer he was made out to be this great ominous all knowing demon AI, but the first scene he had with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver made all that unknown terror quality to him quickly fade…he was just as snarky as stark and that never was explained, why would an AI have Stark’s personality? And be just as flawed with his thinking? Why did he compile all of his battle droids on the his makeshift meteor without dispersing them all over the world? And for all the hate he had towards humans he sure didn’t try hard not to look like them..why does a supreme AI need eyes and a mouth? I don’t know, his motivation for doing all this got lost along the way and there was never a clear explanation as to what his plan would be after he blew everything up, i dont like blatant exposition but man it would definitely helped here to make a solid villain out of Ultron that we don’t forget. The title of the movie is “Age of Ultron” when really it felt like “Few days of Ultron”. I am for sure going to see this again and I can’t wait to hear your thoughts. AND WATCH THAT LANGUAGE!

Jennifer Robertson
I’ve never read the comics, but after seeing this movie this week I started. While I did feel some of the action went on a bit too long (the Hulk sequences seem to go on foreeeeeeeeeeever….) overall I felt satisfied with what I saw for the price. I absolutely loved Vision. I could not be happier to see Paul Bettany on the screen. I missed Loki . My only serious criticism of this film might be that they are straying a bit too far from the story and too much into the action sequence sequel pissing contest. Like Seth said, they can make it better without it necessarily being bigger. I might even say this film came a bit too close to the action type of movie I would put Transformers in. It didn’t quite sink that low, but I felt the threat was there. Joss Whedon, HEAD MY WORDS…..stop hanging out in the director’s lounge with Mike Bay. He will lead you astray! I’ve turned to the comics because I was so intrigued by the character Ultron, I just wish they could have cut out 15 minutes of Hulk roaring and spent 15 more minutes exploring him instead. Thanks for your work, boys! I’m itching to hear this one!

Brian Campbell
Overall, I did enjoy Age of Ultron. But does a couple of frenetic days count as an “age”?
I’m not going to go on a long rant here. I did that last week with Into Darkness. I will say that the Hulk-Buster scene was worth the price of admission. I wanted more of the Black Widow/Bruce Banner courtship. And Tony Stark’s character actually regressed from the end of Iron Man 3.
Thing is, fellas; I’m worried that as these Marvel movies get more and more intricate (on a character level), they lose something important…heart.
Want a frenetic Marvel movie with tons o’ heart? Guardians of the Galaxy did it for me last summer.

Ray R
I can’t speak to the comics, I’m just a movie-goer. I liked it, I liked the humour and the performances. I grow a little tired of the Avengers battling a rampaging horde of identical enemies that seem to act without individuality but I also get that when you have that many super people on a team the most obvious way to give them a challenge is throw an endless supply of Zerglings at them.

It was a new twist focusing more on protecting civilians at least.

What is it with Avengers and constant parallels to Nazi Germany? Last time it was people kneeling to Loki which was done brilliantly and this time it was “peace in our time”. Am I to believe Tony Stark doesn’t know what that phrase actually means? What it refers to? It references an epic mistake on the cusp of the worst war the world has seen. It’s a statement of ignorant folly. Was it tongue in cheek and just not made plain to the audience or was Tony just unaware of history? I don’t care about the playboy lifestyle, if your father was Howard Stark I think you’d know some of the key highlights of WWII. I get that it’s source material is comics that may be a little dated but that only makes ignorance of a key moment of the war less understandable.

I also really liked how Agents Of SHIELD tied in as well. That show really knows how to set up a movie. The tie-in with Captain America 2 was great…when the code decrypted to read HYDRA was just an epic reveal. This time is was just hilarious…
“It’s time to call in The Avengers”
End episode.
Begin next episode.
“Well, that was a helluva week”.

Steve Ferguson
Great film! I really dug it. One point I think made some people uncomfortable (and take a highly unusual pseudo feminist argument) is the budding romance between Black Widow and Banner. I’ve seen the argument that Widow has been reduced to a love interest, and I think this is dead wrong. Usually in a film when a woman is aggressively pursuing a man, she’s either deranged, desperate, or promiscuous. Not so in this film: she’s a strong woman who knows what she wants, and it’s Banner who is the vulnerable one. I think that turned off some movie goers, but I was pretty thrilled with it.

The Geek Likes
Ultron is an alternate universe Cyberdyne Systems AI AND Terminator mashed-up into one neat package.

Bobby Rafuse
I liked parts of it but as a whole, I really feel like something was missing from this movie. Oh yea, the hour worth of footage that was cut that would have probably helped explain some things a bit more (like the whole water hole/dream scene with Thor). I did feel like I watched the first Avengers again just robots replacing aliens. Did it live up to the hype? Well depends on who’s hype. Did it live up to the hype I myself made for it, most certainly not. I was expecting Ultron to be much more menacing instead of expecting him to start sneezing from travel allergies Overall it’s an entertaining movie with some holes for sure but worth checking out for the Hulkbuster scene at least.
Joshua K. Reardon
I felt that the movie was a lot of fun, but ultimately didn’t live up to the first. They threw a lot at the wall and don’t get me wrong, a lot of it stuck, but I came away feeling something was missing.

Maybe It was that I felt Ultron didn’t seem to have the gravitas of previous villains (he felt a lot flatter than Loki, but then Loki also had a whole movie to establish his character even before he was the villain in Avengers). James Spader did an amazing job with the voice but he didn’t seem as sinister as I was hoping. I really enjoyed the Vision however, although I was a little stunned to learn that they were making his solar gem the Mind gem. Plus, you have to question the wisdom of Thanos. He’s spending all this time trying to get agents to gather the Infinity gems for him, then we learn he’ll “Just do it himself”. Why didn’t he just do that in the first place? And, why would he GIVE AWAY the Mind Gem to Loki?
Juliet Heltibridle
I just got home from seeing Age of Ultron for the second time and I enjoyed it just as much as the first time. It is truly refreshing to see a superhero action flick that puts a focus on saving lives, instead of just allowing the collateral damage to pile up. I know this is not the first movie to show a high regard for civilian lives, but it definitely puts it in the front and center for the entire movie. I did find plot to be pretty thin in the area of Ultron’s motivation. Why exactly did he think destroying the world was his reason for existing? Where did the evilness come from? Was it part of Stark’s flawed programming, or did it come from the files he retrieved from Strucker?
Bandrew Scott
This film as a whole was enjoyable, but it didn’t seem to hold up as well as the first avengers film. I have not read this comic arc so I did not know what to expect, but I was hoping for more tension between Stark & Banner. There were funny parts, and there was great action as well. I am over the action so fast that you can’t discern what is happening. That’s what is so refreshing about the Daredevil series on Netflix. It is all real fighting. I know it is not practical to expect them to build 1000 iron man suits with 1000 extras and build jet packs for them all to fly, but I just felt a bit overwhelmed at times with how quickly the action progressed. It was still a very fun movie to watch and I would recommend it.
Feedback for Metropolis…

John Bailey
I enjoyed the discussion of Metropolis. I especially liked it when you played the music that probably influenced John Williams.
A couple of other John Williams related music items:
If you want to hear what sounds like the Jaws theme listen to the Firebird Suite by Igor Stravinsky.
Supermen’s theme can be heard in the Mars movement from The Planets by Gustav Holst.
Thanks again for the great podcast.
Wayne Henderson
Nice work on the Metropolis special of the Sci-Fi Movie Podcast! Dr Who’s Cybermen also pull a lot of influence from the Metropolis robot.

Jerome Matiyas
I just listened to the podcast for Metropolis! (1927) Love this movie! I saw it about 5 to 8 years ago and have been meaning to buy it on dvd or blu-ray. Would love to see some making of featurettes and commentaries on this one!
John Sheehy
I should probably use a phrase like “incredible mastery of craft” but this movie is just so complete at everything. A lot of the scenes are absurd but also beautiful and what are they saying? Machine man relationships, class divides hmmm ….And then bang…Tower of Babel, white uncluttered background, it’s all outside with better special effects and the movie gives itself context, but only after building it’s world.

However the music is incredible and these guys were probably creating the techniques as they needed them. I did think a few times when watching that Leonardo DiCaprio would be well suited to as reboot, which I would have thought is a bad idea, but so many recent reboots have been great, and personally a break away from Marvel would be welcome.

I also mentioned the Tower of Babel as that’s where I paused it, I’m writing this email and then I am going to watch another 20 minutes or so and wait for your Podcast. This movie is really enjoyable but it is a hard work and I feel I would appreciate it better. Thanks for putting this on your show, or I might never have gotten around to watching it.

As a parent I have gotten particularly good at ignoring my own bad habits but having watched this movie, wow I look at my phone and table way to much…kept having to rewind to see if I’d missed a title. My wife also recently got Polish Oscar winner “Ida” so it looks my week has more 4:3 black and white genius to enjoy.

All the best,

John Sheehy,

Alternate ending to Star Trek Into Darkness?
Brian Campbell Thank you, Rem, for an awesome read of my post!
One last idea for what could have been: Imagine Cumberbatch’s character working towards the rescue and “waking up” of his crew-cicles as he did throughout the movie. Only that he is NOT Kahn. Now imagine the last shot of a frozen compatriot, with frost tinged skin, suddenly opening their eyes as the camera pans back to reveal an embossed tag on the hibernation chamber…[Khan Noonien Singh] …end credits.

Thanks to Jodie for posting this:
http://laughingsquid.com/a-look-at-which-science-fiction-franchise-has-the-most-realistic-artificial-gravity/
Ring World, Babylon 5, 2001 and Halo

Nicholas Jensen wrote in and says…
Hey Guys,
I saw that you added eXistenZ to your upcoming reviews and I’m really excited to hear your thoughts on that movie, I’ve liked it for a long time but I think it easily falls through the cracks. I was listening to your 2013 Review and was reminded of a Smackdown edition that you could do. When you discussed Deep Impact and Armageddon and how they came out at the same time with similar plots, I immediately thought of Red Planet and Mission to Mars, both from 2000. I saw that you had both movies in your upcoming movie list and think you should do a Mission to the Red Planet Smackdown. The plots of these two movies are not as similar as Deep Impact and Armageddon but two movies coming out in the same year about going to Mars and finding life/aliens there is odd. I own both movies and I’ve re-watched Red Planet numerous times, Mission to Mars not so much. Both have good casts, but on paper Mission to Mars seems like it should’ve turned out better with Brian de Palma directing and with, arguably, the better cast. Give me Red Planet over Mission to Mars any day, but that’s my opinion, both are sort of guilty pleasures. Keep up the great reviews!
(from Nicholas Jensen)

 

 

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